Do British MPs matter any more?

David Davis

Do British MPs matter any more? I don’t think so. Nor does Melanie Phillips.


It will be interesting, and useful for the dabate, to see what the Libertarian Party decides about policy towards the EU. This is a Soviet superstate in the making, like the USSR and also what Hitler and Himmler called in the early 1940s (when they were on a roll) the “European Union” and the “New Europe”, serially and in parallel.

 I know what the LPUK ought to say, and I know what I hope it will be.


  1. David — as a party, we aren’t ideologically anti-European. However, we do recognise that the legal position of the UK with regards to the EU would have to change in order to implement our policy platform. For example, even something as simple as overhauling the current VAT regime would currently require authorisation from Brussels.

    As it says on our website: “We will ensure that the UK does not enter into any binding agreements with supra-national entities that require the imposition of fines or demand policy actions on domestic affairs or those affecting national security including energy policy. Such agencies include the EU and the United Nations. [We would also] Review membership, funding and all obligations towards supra-national bodies.”

    As a UK political party, we would like — nay, demand — that UK law and the UK Parliament has primacy over the UK. As Libertarians, we believe that the basis of the relationship between our countries and other countries throughout the world should be as trading partners. Thomas Jefferson’s famous quote encapsulates our approach beautifully: “Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations – entangling alliances with none”.

    In the article that you link to, Phillips states: “Whatever happens to the constitutional treaty in Ireland or anywhere else, Britain must now re-negotiate its relationship with the EU”. As I’ve made clear above, that too is the Libertarian Party’s position. However, it also is one that we’ve arrived at through a desire to pursue a genuinely Libertarian/minarchist agenda within the UK, rather than for xenophobic reasons or in an attempt to make cheap political capital out of a single issue that causes concern to many.

  2. Re your last para Patrick, I agree! If it turned out that a majority of voters wanted to leave the EU, as a preferred policy-position (I agree with this one personally) then is that what LPUK would argue for?

    I’m not asking you to force yourselves into a policy-position here, if you have collectively not decided one. It’s early days after all!

  3. David,

    Our aim is not to get painted into the same corner as UKIP.

    We need to leave the EU in its current form in order to enact a libertarian government. That is the best way in which I can sum it up.


  4. I think that’s a good strategy. it will do two things:-
    (1) Highlight the anti-liberal nature of the EU, allowing more “blue-water” between it and Libertarians, and
    (2) It recognises that while the EU is “a” problem for freedom, it is not necessarily “the” problem (as Sean Gabb often publicly states.) “The” problem resides primarily at home in the UK, in the form of our increasingly piloced and state-surveilled society.

  5. Do we have a libertarian party now? I was a member of the US version for a while but got bored with their lack of umph in getting a niche in the poltical firmament.

    The UKLP needs to deal robustly with the EU, the monster state of all monster states. Mister Hitler must be spinning in hell with glee on this one, didn’t he just miss out on the easy way to tyranny?

    It (the EU) is one of those boiling a frog concepts. Do it slowly and the frog won’t jump out of the pan rather than heat it quickly and it will. The EU is classic slow boil to death of our poltical freedoms.

    The at home problem is real too, but the EU just might be an easier target.

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