David Davis
We in the UK still mark sad, or glorious, anniversaries, but more and more in a “politically correct” way. The objective of the Enemy Class here is to hollow out their meaning, turning them into a sort of trivial Morris-dance. As time goes on, the events themselves thus lose definition, and people find themselves performing slightly strange rituals, eating such ceremonial food as is still permitted by the Safety-Nazis, while fewer and fewer recall what the rituals signified.
For stuff like Armistice Day, it’s still not so bad, although practically everybody has died who really knoew what it meant. For 9/11, I have my doubts already.
Seven years ago today, in about two hours’ time by GMT, nineteen hoodlums and death-eaters hijacked four non-military planes full of civilians, and deliberately drove three of them into crowded and conspicuous buildings. The fourth crashed “harmlessly”, as a result, it is believed from wireless evidence, of the efforts of the passengers to either regain control or redirect it. The truthers will of course say otherwise, but I have not time to refute their theories in detail today (although i oppose them to the end of my strength: for I want this to hit the blog before offices in the USA wake up in an hour or so.
As of now, more time has elapsed since 9/11 than the entirety of the Second World War. Yet we seem in the West to be arguing among ourselves about which batch of US government agencies, with or without Israel, plotted to trash several hundred thousand square yards of New York real estate, together with up to 50,000 living humans inside it.
There are now some dissenting views about what really happened. The “truthers”, whatever they might be, come to mind, as I said. Their hypotheses attract people whose sympathies are leftward-leaning, neo-pastoral, East-Coast-intellectual, and anti-capitalist in general.
All I will say now, is that I would be interested in the result of a chi-squared test on trutherism versus Apple-Mac ownership.
But the substance of the case remains that, unless hundreds, if not thousands of (probably mostly) American citizens who collaborated in an “inside job”, were “silenced” or “made to disappear”, (along with all their friends and families who would have an interest in grassing up whoever it was) then a foreign power or religion took it upon itself to perform what you must say was an act of war against the USA, which is to say, the West.
It says a lot for the West that very very widespread dissent about the causes of 9/11 is freely allowed. However, a person called Osama bin Laden, made, before he was killed some years ago, a series of interesting videos in which he freely and proudly assigned responsibility for these acts. Not to the agents of a Western government, but to elements within a certain religion. This religion holds tenets, both explicitly stated in places in its Vulgate, and implied in others, and rarely denied categorically by its adherents, which are inimical to coexistence with other “faiths”. It’s enough to make a man agree with Prof. Richard Dawkins.
The main result that endures is that we are fighting, strategically, the wrong “war”, even though tactical theatres in it may be the right ones – such as iraq, Afghanistan, and the like. the war we have been given is not against an actual enemy, but against a tactic used by one. The “War on Terror” makes no sense: you can’t fight a war aganist “bullets”, or “bombs” – the items are deployed by people.
It’s not what our rulers can’t say, that’s our problem – it’s the way in which they can’t say it….and won’t even allow us to, increasingly.
After seven years of quite disarmingly frank rhetoric and clear-bright statements of their objectives, by the enemies of Western Civilisation, both at home and elsewhere, we are no nearer to being able to admit that a sizeable body of people thinks that human civilisation, with capitalism, liberty and natural rights aloft, is going in the wrong direction.
Many of these people reside in the Anglosphere, in particular the UK which is now coming in for exemplary punishment and cultural erasure from its rulers and popular media: they comprise what Sean Gabb has successfully dubbed the Enemy Class. There are examples of Enemy Classes in all Anglosphere nations. Elsewhere, in more self-confident polities, they are ruthlessly suppressed, along with liberals. It is inevitable that we are infested with these people, so long as we ourselevs are real liberals and we yet do nothing about this mortal danger.
Many others are extreme members of a related mass of pre-capitalist-death-cults which number as either nominal or more enthusiastic adherents over a billion people. And many are comically-charismatic murderers such as Castro, Mugabe, Hogu the Chav, Kim-Jong-Il, and the like, who take pleasure in winding-up and patting-on-the-head the legions of insecure yet terribly-famous Western “journalists” (and some politicians, such as the disgusting Ted Heath who fawned on Saddam in 1990.)
No. Sorry. you can’t have a “war on terror”, od what you have done, and expect it all to be sweetness and light after a few years. Sadly, the half-life of the attention span of modern Western audiences and electorates is decreasing.
Moreover, the widespreadness of the ability to (a) understand and (b) carry on in episodic fashion, a political discourse, is decreasing almost by the year. This may be deliberate “education policy” on the part of Western governments, or it may not, but I think it is. All government persons are shits, which is why they do the jobs they do: these days have no other ability – the times are gone when a “great man”, who has raised factories from dust, or laid the b utchered corpses of tyrants in the bloody sand, would “think of a later career in politics”.
But I don’t think that even the government of the USA – no, not even Halibushitlerburton, not even that lot, is capable of covertly murdering 3,000 of its own citizens and trashing its most important city in a morning, “for oil”, or for any other nefarious objective such as “helping Israel”. Even that lot is not a shitty as that.
But it’s time they either shat or got off the pot and let someone else have a shit, as to the titanic battle of our time, which is whether we either can, or indeed want to, save Western Civilisation. it will be of no use to be a libertarian, and fight our own Jihad for the gradual LIBERTARIAN-NEO-FABIAN drive towards more minimal-statist societies, if nobody stands now. We can be Fabians too. But we must have faith that we are right, and know that it will take a long time, or else the loss of our people in 9/11 was for nothing.
Dave:
You really are disappointing concerning what happened, and who may be responsible, when it cmes to “9/11.” You crave certainly where there is none. So, you resort to increasingly a prioristic arguments, and you sling mud at your imagined adversaries.
In result, you diverge increasingly from an understanding of reality.
The fact is, Dave, that you don’t have the foggiest notion as to whether “hijacked” planes hit the Twin Towers. You do not have any evidence at all, that the planes which hit the Towers were among those which were allegedly hijacked. You have absolutely no forensic or video or eyewitness evidence as to who (if anyone) was flying the planes that hit the Towers. You have no evidence whatsoever that the planes were being flown by their pilots, rather than being controlled via radio, or via their onboard autopilots, which could easily have been rigged to lock out the pilots and fly to predetermined GPS coordinates.
You have absolutely no means of knowing the provenance of the list of “hijackers” which appeared per mirabile the following day (a little late do do anything about it). We certainly know that a sizeable number of alleged “dead hijackers” in fact turned out to be alive and well. Some “list”!
You completely ignore physics, materials specifications, structural design and engineering, seismology, fire science, chemistry, energy balance-sheets and just about every other scientific and technical issue.
You rabbit on about the numbers of people required to (a) plan; and (b) implement such an operation.
You blithely assume that you have a “window into the mind” of those responsible, even when you don’t know who they are.
For more than four years, the FBI did not even have “Osama bin Laden” on their Most Wanted list. Yet you claim to know that “he did it” without any solid evidence at all. A fine juror you’d make…
No 757 hit the Pentagon. It’s completely impossible. Despite being constantly surveilled by CCTV, there is no CCTV footage wirth a damn. All the photographic evidence shows that a 757 could not have done the observable damage. The Chief FOIA Officer agrees. Don Rumsfeld stated that it was a “missile.” What would he know?
All mainstream media coverage in the US relentlessly suppresses discussion of what actually happened on 9/11. Notwithstanding this, a mojority of Americans want a full, open public inquiry to show what actually happened that day.
But you don’t want that. No, you instead resort to absurd ad hominem attacks on those who disagree with you. I’ll bet that you DON’R want such an inquiry.
In short, Dave: you _know_ it was an inside job; but it would be politically for you to inconvenient to acknowledge that, so you belabour us with absurd denials. You know that there are many in government who are grotesque power-lusters: indeed, tou keep on telling us! Yet you feign disbelief when confronted by hard evidence that they are indeed what you say, and behave accordingly.
Have a nice day!
Tony
All right, Tony, if it makes you happy…
9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!!!!
There you are. Happy now?
Your old chum, DD
I’ll still be your old chum, regardless. DD
This just in: Well, it’s official. The Democratic National Committee has ceased to exist. That’s right, on 09-11-08, the 7th anniversary of the 09-11-01 attacks, the DNC for lack of a better analogy, has been relegated to the dustbin of history. Wherein, it has joined such notables as the former Soviet Union, mood rings, and disco. So long DNC, it’s been real. America needs a two-party system, but the DNC could run on fumes for only so long. It’s up to Barack Obama to restructure the platform. And, perhaps he’s the man for the job. Now the DNC sputtered along nursing its panoply of grievances, eye poking, finger pointing, hair pulling, nail splitting, and head banging from which it garnered a more than substantial income. But shortly after 09-11-01, the DNC also collapsed into a pile of smoke & rubble. Did most Democrats / Liberals truly have nothing in common with, and dislike the very people they relied on to get them elected? D’oh! What happened and why, will no doubt be fodder for more practiced wits than my own; but one thing’s certain: the DNC is finished, the Democratic Party is over: http://theseedsof9-11.com
Dave:
It doesn’t make me happy; but it does greatly increase my respect for you.
Robert Moss once wrote that all that was required for a Disinformation Operation to succeed was for it to be pushed to the forefront of media and TV coverage, and kept there for three days. After that, it would hardly matter what inconvenient truth was uncovered, because the great mass of people would be “imprinted.”
But this was before the days of world-spanning communications; the Internet; the independent investigations by highly-skilled and qualified people; and the Internet (let alone the Intelligence Services of every country on Earth, all of whom need to know what really happened).
When USAF General Wesley Clark, the German Intelligence Minister, and President Cossiga of Italy and a host of others agree that something is dreadfully wrong with the “Official Story”, they’re not doing it for fun. They want the answers.
So do I. Honest, accurate answers. Nothing less.
Cordially,
Tony
I would reiterate what Tony has said, and also point out how many detestable infringements on our individual liberty have been justified by the jihadi that’s supposed to be hiding under every bed.
I have never denied that governments are usiing, and have used, the “War on terror” as an excuse to extend their snooping into people’s lives. The problem lies with the psychological plane of existence known as “Bureaucratness” – in Russian, it has probably a word that ends in “-nost”.
If some information, about anything to do with a population, is potentially available (even if not currently collected) then a person suffering from “Bureaucratness” will find a way to compel its collection, justifying it in some way. Penalties will be laid, for failing to provide it, and also, as is inevitable with socialists, failing to comply with the defined norm.
But none of that means that even the really quite shitty (if not absolutely so) Western administrations will stoop quite so low as to stage “terror theatre” – that is to say, actually encompass the real deaths of thousands of real people, as a justification for more measures.
I can accept that they might cause/bribe/pay an already strange man, such as Thomas Hamilton, who has “previous”, and might be threatenable, to try to murder some primary school children in a fairly unknown small town in Scotland. They might do this as an excuse to “ban handguns” (“handguns” sounds so much more threatening, don’t you think, than “pistols”, or “small automatics”, or revolvers” does, no? Like the word “dogs” does, versus “hounds” as applied to hunters by their enemies…)
Yes, I can believe that they might have staged Dunblane, and Hungerford too. I thought Hungerford was certainly iffy at the time, in 1987. And I had increasing doubt about Dunblane too.
But not the Twin towers, no, sorry. Our tormentors are low people, but not that low, certainly not yet. They might get desperate in time, but the time has not yet come. Liberal blogs will be shut down first.
The shutting-down of our blogs will be a firm sign, yes.