1. Since Guantanamo is to be closed, all military commission trials are defunct.

    For many reasons, no prosecetion could ever succeed in a US Court under the provisions of the US Constitution.




    This was released to the public on 14 January 2009. It’s not a perfect transcript, but so it goes…

    9/11 Truth: Tony Hollick told the Commission What to Investigate

    Page 224


    Event: Telephonic interview of Tony Hollick.
    Investigation conducted by: Marco A. Cordero

    “In response to a call from Tony Hollick to the commission, Commissioner staffer Marco A. Cordero contacted Tony Hollick, a British citizen, born in 1942 at telephone number 01144-117-909-8918 on June 18,2004.

    Hollick advised that he contacted the 9-11 commission to advise them about two video attachments he sent via e-mail to the commission.s web-site address info@9-11commission.gov on June 16,2004. Hollick advised one of these videos would demonstrate to the commission that the collapse of the towers of the World Trade Center (WTC) was not caused by the intense heat of the jet fuel but rather by the explosion of military shaped charges which were placed behind the vertical external steel supports and the explosion of massive explosive devices at the base of the WTC.

    Hollick advised that politics were involved in this plot and firmly believes Attorney General Ashcroft is the mastermind of this plot because “[Attorney-]General Ashcroft has the covert and overt units of the military and the counterintelligence and intelligence resources [of the FBI] under his control”

    Hollick also advised that the second video would demonstrate that the damage to the Pentagon was not the result of a commercial airliner crashing into it, but rather the result of a missile attack which was fired by either a “Global Hawk or an F-16 prior to crashing into the building”. Hollick advised that a commercial airliner would have caused a much larger hole and caused much more damage. He also found it inconceivable for a “Boeing to completely vaporize and for the black boxes to survive the fire.

    When asked what he thought happened to the hi-jacked plane, Hollick advised that the plane may have never existed, stating that it was a phantom plane or that the “FBI faked the flight”. If a plane was hi-jacked he theorized that the plane was purposely crashed into the Atlantic Ocean where it is currently sitting at the bottom.

    Hollick believes the FBI was involved in this plot adding that John O’Neal [sp], former retired FBI agent who was working as the director of security for the WTC, either collaborated with the explosive experts (responsible for the placement of the military shaped charges in WTC) or turned a blind eye to the placement of these explosive charges.

    Hollick asked that the commission confirm the receipt of his e-mail because he is concerned the FBI may have intercepted his e-mail.

    He is convinced the FBI may have intercepted the message through FBI’s use of “frontending” which he described as an intelligence operation by which the FBI uses a company name as a front to covertly obtain/intercept information from the public.”

    So, where is the email in the 9/11 Commission’s records? And the videos?

    Best Wishes,

    Tony Hollick

  2. Dave:

    Well, just for starters, were any of those detained advised of their “Miranda” rights when they were grabbed?

    A bit less of the “old chap”, please — I’m young at heart!



  3. Tony, young man!

    I’m trying to influence lots of people very quickly in a short time. I have no time to follwo up lots of refs. I make mo apology for that. I have a wife and two children with whom I have to socialise most of the time, when i am not working, and I have to work.

    Then there has to be time for sleep.

    To me, if buggers blew up the USS Cole, they are not lovers of liberty and minimal-statist civilisation.

  4. Dave:

    Of course, I realize that. You’re a “broadcaster” whilst I’m more of an ideas man, and I let others do the “publicity” bit. Adam Smith’s “Division of Labour”, I’d guess.

    “To me, if buggers blew up the USS Cole, they are not lovers of liberty and minimal-statist civilisation.”

    Sure. Bat if they’re tried in our Courts, they’re entitled yo our standards of justice. Otherwise, we become barbarians also.

    What’s this bizness now about “pagans?”

    Wiccans follow the libertarian creed: “Do what you please, without harming others” is the Wiccan rede.

    Those who follow (some of) the ways of Classical Greece are also “pagans.” It just means “people of the village.” Where’s the beef?

    Do you realise that your pursuit of your variety of “intellectual hegemony” is quintessentially Gramscian in nature?? (smiles)

    My idea of Hell would be going to a party where everyone agreed with me about everything. I like the company of philosophical anarchists precisely because — as David D. Friedman wrote — “There may be two libertarians somewhere who agree with each other about everything: but I am not one of them.” >:-}

    And I’m still awaiting your essay on “Gramsco-Marxianism.” RSN… >:-}



  5. Dave:

    I don’t care much for Al Gove.

    I do worship Olivia Newton-John, and I have done for a very long time.

    Here’s Gaianism: what is it exactly that you so dislike? Tolkien was a sort of Gaian, with the spirit of Melkor (“Dark Satanic Mills”, Orcs bred from Eleves etc.) marring the Creation of Arda.

    Herewith, from Wiki:

    “New Age Gaians are people who use the Gaia Theory of James Lovelock spiritually. These people generally believe that the Earth is an entity that we are to get in touch with in order to obtain inner or world peace, or maintain global homeostasis.

    Often referred to as Gaianism, or the Gaian Religion, this spiritual aspect of the philosophy is very broad and inclusive, making it adaptable to other religions: Humanism, Taoism, Neo-Paganism, Pantheism, Judeo-Christian Religions, and others.

    The beliefs of Gaianism are fairly open-ended:

    1. Honor Gaia. (Gaia, sometimes spelled Gaea, ultimately is simply a name given for the co-dependent “Web of Life” that includes all physical forms of existence from plants to humans; sometimes this is expanded to include stars and other planets, or the Universe itself. Some Gaians even go so far as to say Gaia is Earth’s true name, in the sense that Mars is the name of planet Mars)

    2. Endeavor to Soften or Reduce the Human Impact on Gaia. (Essentially, this means being mindful of one’s actions and to be moderate with natural resources. Environmentalism and Environmental Education is strongly encouraged.)

    3. Be Respectful of Life in All Its Forms. (Be respectful and courteous not only of human life, but also animal and to an extent plant life. Many Gaians often become vegetarians and vegans, however this is not a requirement.)

    More religious aspects of Gainism (such as the nature of the Divine, afterlife, etc.) are left up to the individual’s personal belief system. Gaianism is simply a spiritual philosophy given in an effort to understand the unity of the universe that binds us all and encourage environmental awareness.”

    Like, “The Force” in STAR WARS.

    Like, Henri Bergson’s “Elan Vital” (making a philosophical and comeback, especially with the recent discovery that creatures of volitional consciousness can modify their own DNA to make their sought-after acquired characteristics genetically transmissible).

    How you, as a Christian biochemist, can object to all this as you do is quite beyond me. You want an England which is a “Green and Pleasant Land” also? The marrying of Science and Spirit?

    [ FX: “You have to believe we are Magic:

    Nothing can stand in our way…” ]



    PS: We’re not talking the “Watermelons” here… (smiles)

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